Multiple Marketing Layers Produce Exponential Growth

Relevant Church in Tampa, FL is creative churchown probably 30 different websites. We’ll do
leading the way when it comes to online churcha series and create a website just for that series
marketing. I recently had the opportunity to chatand then market the heck out of it. It kinda
with Pastor Paul Wirth, senior pastor of Relevantlayers into what people start knowing what
Church in Tampa, FL about their online marketingRelevant is.
strategy. In part one of this three part series,Kurt: Really none of these marketing elements
Pastor Wirth detailed how 65%-70% of theare working independently. They are all interlinked.
members of his church have come via thePastor Wirth: Yeah, it’s multiple layers. If you
Internet. In the second part of my interview withtalk to any marketing person they will tell you
Pastor Wirth, he explained how multiple layers ofthat if you choose to do one layer of marketing,
church marketing – online and offline –you will get a minimal response. If you do multiple
complement each other and proved to be muchlayers of marketing, you increase you chances of
more effective.being seen exponentially. So, usually we try to do
Part 2 – Marketing on Multiple Levelsfive layers of marketing with anything we do. If
Kurt: You mentioned you use billboards and yardwe’re going to do a series, we’ll do a
signs as well as websites and Adwords in yourbillboard maybe, we’ll do yard signs, a web
church marketing campaigns, can you tell us moreaddress…if we’re really trying to promote it.
about the various marketing ideas you use?We usually do that four times a year where
Pastor Wirth: Quite frankly, yard signs arewe’re really trying to push it. We’ll do
probably the number one way that we actuallyinvite cards which our people give to other people
get people to come to our church. They see that,and they have web address on it and maybe a
which just has a web address on it. They go tolittle more information. And we may put up a
the web address, find out about our church, andbanner or invite on MySpace or Facebook. We
then come and visit. That is the one thing that wejust try to make sure there are 5 layer of
have been marketing the most as far as guestsmarketing.
coming through the doors. It was yard signs viaKurt: It sounds like you’re saying that having
Internet.the multiple levels of marketing is the key.
We’ve found out with the yard signs that weSpending a little extra money to include additional
don’t put a lot of information on it. I thinklayers ends up making a huge difference in the
sometimes people in marketing try to put tooimpact of the marketing.
much information on a billboard or on a sign thatPastor Wirth: And that’s why we choose not
they put out and people, if they are traveling atto do it for everything. About four times a year
40 miles an hour, they don’t have enoughwe say, man, this is a huge growth month…You
time to read everything.have to know the growth cycle of your church
Kurt: That’s trueto know that, ok we grow in this month, but this
Pastor Wirth: We try to make it minimal,month we don’t grow so much. A church
eye-catching, have it drive them somewhereneeds to be tracking their attendance so they
where they can get the information that we wantknow when they see spikes in their attendance. If
them to get. So, I think that’s where youyou see spikes in your attendance in certain
have to be really creative about the way youmonths, then you need to market to those
market. We try to be creative on the websitesmonths. If you can maximize that marketing
that we pick or the series that we do.during the natural growth patterns that the church
Kurt: So, it gives them enough to get theirhas, then you can see those numbers grow more
attention and get them to go and give themrapidly then they would if you weren’t doing
enough information so they know where to go,anything.
but not give them too much.So, that’s why we target certain times of
Pastor Wirth: It’s a hook. That’s basicallythe year and we say “We want to do a
what it is, a hook.billboard this time. We want to do yard signs this
Kurt: So, you said that you’ve had a lot oftime. We want to do invite cards this time and
online marketing that you’ve done. What arewe want to put MySpace and Facebook ads up
some of the other things you done with onlinethis time.” So, we do that, but we are
marketing. Have you done search enginestrategic about when we do it, how we do it, and
marketing? Have you optimized your sites for thewhat the series is that we do during that time.
search engines?During those times we try to make sure we hit
Pastor Wirth: Yeah, we do all of the above.felt-need, serious things. Because people who
I’m not the guy who handles all that stuff.don’t usually come to church, they don’t
I’m just the pastor. So, I don’t handle anecessarily want to come and hear the four
lot of our online stuff, but we do the multiplespiritual laws and they don’t want to talk
layers. So, we do optimization and all of stuff getsabout eschatology, but they do want to talk
taken care of through our web guy and he’sabout, “How am I going to make it in my
out of state. He’s actually in Georgia inrelationship that I have with my girlfriend or my
Atlanta. You can pretty much type inboyfriend or my husband or my wife?” They
“Relevant Church”, “Relevant Churchwant to know, ‘How do I deal with the stress
Ybor”, “Tampa Churches” and thoseat my work? Work is tough, man. How do I deal
kinds of things and most of the time our listing willwith that?” You have to hit on topics where
rise to the top on just about every search engine.they go, “Man, I would like some answers to
We just believe in multiple layers. So, we’vethis and I didn’t know that God had the
done MySpace Ads and other Internet stuff. Weanswers to that.